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Mad Poster
#4376 Old 29th Dec 2018 at 9:26 PM
I think Maxis just sort of gave up at some point and started grabbing names from the plays without looking into context. In Much Ado About Nothing, Beatrice and Benedick become a couple at the end. Maxis made them twins.

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Test Subject
#4377 Old 30th Dec 2018 at 4:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulbizarre
I think Maxis just sort of gave up at some point and started grabbing names from the plays without looking into context. In Much Ado About Nothing, Beatrice and Benedick become a couple at the end. Maxis made them twins.


Yes, this example is so creepy! It is not like those two are the kind of twins like Siegmund & Sieglinde. Context is indeed another strange side about some names, like the before mentioned random name giving in the Summerdream-family.

Sorry for my grammar errors - english is not my native language :)
Alchemist
#4378 Old 30th Dec 2018 at 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Orphalesion
For some reason she's named after Nick Bottom (so why not call her Nicole or Nickie?) an artisan from Midsummerngiht's Dream who gets enchanted to have a donkey head and with whom Titania falls madly in love with under the influence of a love potion. So...her naming her like that is very strange. If anything Nick Bottom should have been an additional Sim who's Titania's lover.
It's just one of the reasons why the Shakespeare parable in Veronaville is terrible, they didn't see anything through.

Though various translation teams not recognizing that those are Shakespeare characters (and no, I know for a fact that Shakespeare is well known in Germany and used in German English lessons) is really embarrassing beyond belief.


I change Bottom to Peaseblossom. My teen son was cast as Nick Bottom last spring (ballet) but even before that, it's a nope! name for me. I also change Puck to Robin, a little change, but gives the poor kid more of a name, name, and less chance of being teased and beat on at school, which is going to happen anyway because elf.

Veronaville is really just a mess in naming. You can take it as a Shakespeare festival obsessed town, and it makes more sense that way, then trying to fit the characters as given into their namesake roles.

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Lab Assistant
#4379 Old 1st Jan 2019 at 2:58 PM
When your sim kid gets bad grade, the pop up warning about social worker coming if they don't improve in their grades, shows up 20 times A DAY and it's so annoying. And it shows up even after your sim kid has done their homework of the day. It shows even in the middle of the night, all the way before the sim kid has gone to school next day.
Mad Poster
#4380 Old 1st Jan 2019 at 3:26 PM
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Originally Posted by thewrittenletter
When your sim kid gets bad grade, the pop up warning about social worker coming if they don't improve in their grades, shows up 20 times A DAY and it's so annoying. And it shows up even after your sim kid has done their homework of the day. It shows even in the middle of the night, all the way before the sim kid has gone to school next day.


It shouldn't be doing that. You've got a problem somewhere.
Scholar
#4381 Old 1st Jan 2019 at 3:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunbee
I change Bottom to Peaseblossom. My teen son was cast as Nick Bottom last spring (ballet) but even before that, it's a nope! name for me. I also change Puck to Robin, a little change, but gives the poor kid more of a name, name, and less chance of being teased and beat on at school, which is going to happen anyway because elf.

Veronaville is really just a mess in naming. You can take it as a Shakespeare festival obsessed town, and it makes more sense that way, then trying to fit the characters as given into their namesake roles.


First of all, congrats to your son! That's amazing!

And yeah, the reason I'm so disappointed with Veronaville is because I love modern reinterpretations of Shakespeare, I even like that terrible, corny movie from the 90s that misinterprets the "Wherefore art thou?" line, because they at least saw the idea of "Romeo and Juliet in the 20th century) through in an acceptable fashion.
Plus the way it stands at installation Veronaville is also very challenging for a generation-focused player, since there's only three family lines, meaning you need to introduce a lot of CAS sims, uni students and/or Townies if you wanna keep it going past gen 2.

And both of those problems could have been solved/lessened if they had comitted more closely to the Romeo and Juliet/Midsummernight's dream parallel and included the missing characters as additional families instead of creating all those useless, additional Capps and Monties. Have Prince Escelaus as the mayor and father of Paris and Mercutio, have the four youths from Midsummernight's Dream come from families that are aligned with the Capps/Monties etc. etc. etc.

In my dream Veronaville (which I might -might- create somewhen in the future) Puck's also named Robin Goodfellow and is Oberon's younger brother, while "Bottom" is replaced by four daughters of Titania and Oberon named loosely after the four fairies in Titania's train; Blossom (Peaseblossom), Butterfly (Moth), Gossamer (Cobweb) and ....well I was not able to think of anything better than "Saffron" for Mustardseed...

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Lab Assistant
#4382 Old 1st Jan 2019 at 5:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Charity
It shouldn't be doing that. You've got a problem somewhere.


Ah, sorry about that then. I need to check my mod ;;
Alchemist
#4383 Old 6th Jan 2019 at 1:49 AM
@thewrittenletter Has their grade improved since then? Maybe there are still week/days old unfinished homework remaining, lying around somewhere unseen?

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Forum Resident
#4384 Old 6th Jan 2019 at 5:10 AM
I always get the social worker messages over and over too, until the child has actually gone back to school and brought the grade up. Guardian forbid they come home with a bad grade on a Friday night - that message just keeps up, over and over, all through the weekend.

The only solution I've found is to have the kid do extra work via the Homework Table, as that actually brings the grade up as soon as the work is done.
Test Subject
#4385 Old 6th Jan 2019 at 8:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HubbaHop
Oh yes, I find those pairings so boring too! Maybe because they are too flawless or the "perfect"-couple stereotype, I have no clue what bugs me exactly.

My biggest pet peeve of all time are the German translations of the names of the premades. (Yes, I know, I can easily change them with simpe, but that is not the point.)

Why thought the translators that we need 4 sims called Gerd instead of Chester, Buck, Garrett and Guy? Or the female version Gerda instead of Goneril, who is name after a character from a play? They love the masuline form Gerd that much, they also gave it to Glabe Curious! And of course, destroy some references from Shakespeare in Veronaville with Albert (Albany), Erich (Cornwall), Theobald (Tybalt), Rita (Reagan), Elvira (Ariel), Hans (Hal) and Victorio (Mercutio), which all aren't official names from the translated plays. Some of them don't even sound familiar, like Andrea = Bottom. And don't get me started on the translated family names like Sahne (Whipped Cream) instead of Cornwall's family name Dane. Also, for some reasons the Ramaswamis became an Italian family, Antonini. I'm sorry for the rant, I could go on and on with it, but I spare you the other weird examples. ^^''


This is hilarious, does anyone else have any examples of weird translations? Or is there a thread out there somewhere for it? I'd love to hear them, my roommate manages linguistic QA for a game testing company lol
Theorist
#4386 Old 7th Jan 2019 at 4:35 AM
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Originally Posted by catalpa
This is hilarious, does anyone else have any examples of weird translations? Or is there a thread out there somewhere for it? I'd love to hear them, my roommate manages linguistic QA for a game testing company lol

The wikia fandom site has other languages' names for most of the playable sims at the bottoms of their pages. Here's Bella Goth's page as an example. In the German version of Sims 1, she was apparently named "Julia von Spinnwebb" for some reason.
https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Bella_Goth
Mad Poster
#4387 Old 7th Jan 2019 at 6:20 AM
Her Strangetown counterpart also has some weird things going on:

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The two Bellas actually have different names in some languages. For example, in French, Bella is called Kathy Lalouche, while the Pleasantview Bella is called Sonia Gothik. In Thai, she's called "คิตตี้ คิวเรียส". Both of these translate to "Kitty Curious"


Combine it with these:
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She considers herself the aunt of Johnny and Jill Smith and, oddly enough, Johnny and Jill's relationship data also reflects this.
She considers herself the sibling of Vidcund Curious, but not either of the other Curious brothers, nor Jenny Smith. Vidcund and Jenny both also consider Bella to be a sibling.


I get the impression that Maxis was trying to do something with this, but either scrapped it or just left it half-implemented.

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Scholar
#4388 Old 7th Jan 2019 at 10:29 AM
Truth be told I find it really stupid that they translate the names at all. First of all personal names should never be trasnlated as it is and second of all, who were they trying to fool? Or what were they trying to achieve? The neighbourhoods, even Veronaville, are obviously US American and renaming Jill Smith to "Juni Svenssen" doesn't magically transform Strangetown into a village in the Norwegian mountains or some poop.

I mean that's about as emberassing as the English translation of the original Godzilla movie shoving in extra scenes with an American actor to "make it relatable"

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Forum Resident
#4389 Old 19th Jan 2019 at 10:38 PM
The glitches that occur if a townie moves out of an apartment to live with a playable family. Waylon Menon was living in the same apartment building as Andrew and Jacob Martin, until he moved in with Jules O'Mackey and her mother. So I go to play the Martins; Waylon's door now says "Teatherton" and every time he appears on the lot something glitches - Andrew didn't get his pension, Jacob didn't get paid, the newspaper disappeared out of Jacob's hand, etc.

Okay, the solution isn't exactly difficult - I moved the Martins out, deleted the lot, placed a new instance of it and moved the Martins back in - but it does make me "Grrr" that EAxis didn't fix apartment move-outs properly. (And please don't let this be where I find out that bulldozing the building has caused corruption . . . I only just now thought of that possibility!)
Scholar
#4390 Old 19th Jan 2019 at 11:02 PM
Apartments in general are a glitchy, unstable mess in my experience. I've given up on them long ago.

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Forum Resident
#4391 Old 20th Jan 2019 at 3:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Orphalesion
Apartments in general are a glitchy, unstable mess in my experience. I've given up on them long ago.


You may have the right idea there. Every time I decide to give apartments another chance, they glitch out on me. Every. Time. So nowadays, apartments are only temporary housing. I either use them as a place to stick sims I'm not going to play often or I just fully expect to get fed up and move out a family I've placed in one into a regular lot.

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Mad Poster
#4392 Old 20th Jan 2019 at 5:46 AM
Weird. I've never had problems with them.
Mad Poster
#4393 Old Yesterday at 12:26 PM
Do you guys ever get that one sim in a household who seems incapable of doing anything without you holding their hand? They'll stand there like idiots until they're in motive desperation, while everyone else gets on with their lives. So annoying!
Scholar
#4394 Old Today at 4:19 AM
Some aspects of Family Sims in large neighbourhoods with large, spread-out families. Each time some distant relative of theirs kicks the bucket they go into aspiration failure because they had the "Family member dies" fear when saved.
Like one of my family Sims has started the last two rotations going to aspiration failure because an aunt and an uncle he had never spoken to had died...

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