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#1 Old 6th Sep 2018 at 10:19 AM Last edited by MiaAngelina : 13th Sep 2018 at 9:10 PM.
Default Loser's Legacy
LOSER'S LEGACY
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"Once upon a time a sim got cursed by 10 generations of misery for him and all his family. Will they be able to prevail in the decades of misfortune to finally break the spell?"

This is a variation of the original Legacy challenge so most of the rules are the same. You can find them here: https://www.simslegacychallenge.com...hallenge-rules/

In a nutshell, you have to create your founder sim, move them onto an empty lot and maintain their bloodline for 10 generations. In this particular game, we will be focusing on an unlucky individual whose character is miserable and twisted, and their future family of similar losers. Whereas in the original challenge you have to randomize all traits, in Loser's Legacy you will choose them yourself. However, only certain traits are allowed:

ALLOWED TRAITS:
Absent-minded
Brooding
Can't stand art
Childish
Clumsy
Commitment issues
Couch potato
Coward
Dislikes children
Diva
Dramatic
Easily impressed
Frugal
Grumpy
Hates the outdoors
Hopeless romantic
Hot-headed
Hydrophobic
Inappropriate
Insane
Kleptomaniac
Light sleeper
Loner
Loser (required for all)
Mean spirited
Mooch
Neat
Neurotic
Never nude
No sense of humor
Over-emotional
Proper
Shy
Slob
Snob
Social butterfly
Socially awkward
Supernatural skeptic
Technophobe
Unflirty
Unlucky
Unstable (must not prevent trait swaps)

In addition to the assortment of awful traits, each of your sims will also suffer from a certain "fatal flaw". There are 20 possible fatal flaws and they are assigned randomly. Some of them only affect the sim to which they apply, while others will have a significant impact on the whole family. There are some funny synergies between them which you will soon find out.

FATAL FLAWS:
1. Crazy cat lady/man - your family must own as many cats as possible (2-6 according to how many sims live in the house). If at any moment a space for another one appears, you have to adopt a new cat immediately. When this fatal flaw takes effect, the family must get rid of any other animals to make space for the cats. (Re-roll if you don't have Pets EP.)
2. Nymphomaniac - the sim must woohoo at least three times every day. For teens making out will do (unless you have mods that allow teen woohoo).
3. Hoarder - the family may not sell/delete anything except for build mode objects.
4. Glutton - the sim must eat at least 8 full plates of food every day (you can make a family meal and reserve it for that sim for easier tracking). Quick meals count too. Glutton and a sim with Poor appetite will dislike each other and always be enemies.
5. Claustrophobe - this sim will never go inside a building. Or a car. Or a plane. Or generally any closed space.
6. Agoraphobe - this sim will never leave the safety of their house. Ever.
7. Germophobe - this sim must do everything in their power to maintain "Squeaky clean" moodlet at all times. This means as soon as it wears off, they need to hop in a shower to regain it. They will never interact with smelly sims and use dirty objects. They will also never use public bathroom. Germophobe and Stinker will dislike each other and always be enemies.
8. Danger addict - every time this sim's mood gets in the red, they will engage in an activity that has a chance of killing them. Be creative, it can be anything from repairing an electrical object with low handiness skill to standing outside in a thunderstorm, shaking a vending machine, eating magical jelly beans, ranting about death or flying a jet pack. If they survive, they don't have to taunt death again until the next day.
9. Cruel - this sim will feel an overwhelming urge to bully those closest to them. Every day this sim must be mean to each member of the household (teen and older) to the point that their victim will get a negative moodlet from it. They can apologize afterwards and try to mend their relationship, only to succumb to their dark side again the next day...
10. Scrooge - the family can only buy the cheapest available variant of items and services. They will also never buy anything costing over §1000. They will never give away any money or items or food for any sims outside of their family. Scrooge will always be enemies with Spendthrift and Gambler.
11. Fickle - this sim will not stay in one job for more than a week. Then they will quit and try something different, never going back to that particular career again. The same goes for relationships - no more than one week after going steady (or marrying) they have to break up and try their luck with someone else next time.
12. Spendthrift - this sim will spend every simoleon they get their hands on. If the family has any money left, you have to have this sim spend it all buying stuff or services. Bills can be paid with priority, but everything else must be spent as fast as you can. Spendthrift and Scrooge will dislike each other and always be enemies.
13. Misanthrope - this sim can never be anyone's friend. In fact, the only interactions they are allowed with other sims are mean. They should try to keep all relationship scores neutral or in negative numbers.
14. Drunkard - this sim has to go to a bar every evening and have at least 10 drinks. When they finally go to bed, they cannot get up before noon.
15. Gambler - this sim needs to spend at least 4 hours in a casino each day engaging in gambling activities for highest possible stakes. If they lose all their money, they can go home early. Gambler and Scrooge will dislike each other and always be enemies. (Re-roll if you don't have any casino items from the Sims store.)
16. Lazy - this sim will never touch any housework (cleaning, repairing, dishes, laundry, taking trash out, gardening etc.), only ever takes part time jobs and slacks off the entire shift. If they need to prepare their own food, they only go for quick meals and microwave-heated ones. They will never do any sports and will not learn skills unless the activity also raises their fun. Teenagers will always slack off at school and never do their homework.
17. Loon - you may not directly control this sim. No commands can be given and no actions can be cancelled. They will just do whatever they please, assuming you have their free will toggled on. Otherwise they will just stand there and drool. This sim may not move out of the house on their own.
18. Stinker - this sim will never ever shower or bathe, nor will they swim or wash their clothes. They just love their smell so other sims will have to deal with it. Germophobe and Stinker will dislike each other and always be enemies.
19. Poor appetite - this sim will not eat unless they are starving (the -80 moodlet). At that point they can have one small meal (yoghurt, green salad, cereals or a piece of fruit or vegetable). A sim with Poor appetite and Glutton will dislike each other and always be enemies.
20. Ghost obsession - each week this sim needs to acquire a new tombstone for their collection. You can visit a mausoleum, steal it from a graveyard or arrange an untimely demise of some unsuspecting sim. All tombstones need to be hidden somewhere on the family lot. Keep it a secret from other family members, unless they also share this trait.


You will start with rolling a 20-sided die (or using random number generator for numbers 1-20, for example Random.org) to see which fatal flaw your founding sim will possess. With that in mind, create your sim. Give the sim "Loser" trait and add another four traits from the list of allowed traits according to your taste. Finally move your sim on your starting lot and start playing! During Week 1 your fatal flaw will NOT take effect, so you can make any necessary preparations if needed.

Whenever a baby is born into your family, you need to roll for their fatal flaw. Do this before choosing traits, so you can choose traits that would not contradict the fatal flaw. (It would be weird to have a slob germophobe or a frugal spendthrift for example.) All fatal flaws will not take effect until the sim reaches their teens. Until then it is dormant and only serves you to choose fitting traits or plan for succession.

When an outsider sim joins the household, they are initially free of the family curse so they don't have any fatal flaw. However, living with your sims for too long will forever twist their character, so every new trait they might gain while living there will have to be chosen from the list of allowed traits (starting with "Loser" if possible), and as soon as they age up under your control, they will need to roll their own fatal flaw.

Sometimes you cannot choose traits for your sim and the game assigns them randomly. Therefore your sim might end up with some disallowed traits. This is fine, but such sims are not eligible for succession. Only pureblood losers with all their traits from the "allowed" list (including the mandatory "Loser" trait) can be heir or spare.

If you can manage to run this family long enough to reach Generation 10, you win and the curse is broken, meaning no more bad traits or fatal flaws for any future sims. Yay!


Some notes:
- To see which sim has what fatal flaw, the best is to write the name of the fatal flaw (or some abbreviation of it) before the sim's first name (like Scrooge Lizzie or Lazy Pete).
- If your sim has the "Unstable" trait from Into the Future EP, you may not have them avoid having trait swap episodes (breathe into a paper bag, treat instability in a hospital). However, they are not excluded from succession for getting disallowed traits this way.
- You may sometimes fail to meet the daily quota for certain fatal flaws (like 8 meals for Glutton or 3 woohoo for Nymphomaniac). It doesn't mean that you lost the challenge, but always make an honest attempt to do it right. If you wish, you can count penalty points for when that happens to compare with other players later.
- If you are uncomfortable with certain fatal flaws (they might touch a subject that is sensitive to you), feel free to re-roll and take something you are comfortable with.

Well, that's it! I hope you will enjoy playing my challenge. Please let me know if you have any questions or ideas and most importantly - share your stories!

Happy simming!
~MiaAngelina
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Test Subject
Original Poster
#2 Old 13th Sep 2018 at 10:32 AM
Simmer MamaDragon made this awesome roller for fatal flaws and allowed traits and kindly shared it with us, so feel free to use it! :-)

http://mamadragonssims.weebly.com/s...acy-roller.html
Lab Assistant
#3 Old 13th Sep 2018 at 5:53 PM
I made a few tweaks for my own playstyle, but this looks like super fun. I'll have to try it out once I've finished writing my fanfic. :P

Thanks, I hate it.
Lab Assistant
#4 Old 15th Sep 2018 at 7:59 AM
This looks hilarious!

Absolutely Cuckoo - I'm Surrounded By Idiots
Pollard - a Boolprop EPIC challenge
Test Subject
#5 Old 25th Sep 2018 at 3:26 AM
I'm having fun with this so far, and finally came to a decision on what writing voice to use for story telling purposes.

And I sort of fixed my login for here.

If anyone want's to follow along http://mamadragonssims.weebly.com/l...gacy/meinwen-11
I almost didn't get a heir, and would have had to start over, yipes.
Forum Resident
#6 Old 26th Sep 2018 at 9:37 PM
Love Mama Dragon's story! I started mine here:
https://2sim3.wordpress.com/other/loser/
It's not nearly as good as Mama Dragon's story telling, but if you find sims in discomfort a bit entertaining; then, there is entertainment value.
Test Subject
#7 Old 28th Sep 2018 at 12:31 AM
Augh!!!

Question, on a birthday if they transition with an unallowed trait, stupid game mechanics & anything less than A grades, can we roll them a new trait from the allowed list? And do a quick tce trait change or use midlif crisis if they've got enough ltr point's (she doesn't). Sadly I think I know the answer, time to make more babies, darned heir got savy sculptor.
Test Subject
#8 Old 28th Sep 2018 at 12:34 AM
Ps, there are 3 more chapters up as of yesterday. http://mamadragonssims.weebly.com/loser-legacy
Test Subject
#9 Old 28th Sep 2018 at 5:52 PM
Pulled from another site

"Sims with the Unlucky or Loser traits are immune to accidental deaths. You will see them die and become ghosts, but the Grim Reaper will bring them back to life rather than sending them to the grave. Unlucky and Loser Sims can only die of old age. "
https://www.thonky.com/the-sims-3/death

Well um dang, I'll be testing it just to be sure but dang there went those possible plans.

I'll be in game today, with the sole purpose of updating the roller page with a baby, child, and teen roller for the loser legacy allowed traits.
Test Subject
#10 Old 28th Sep 2018 at 7:38 PM
Thank goodness for carl's guide.

Here is the short list of allowed loser traits for babies
Absent-Minded
Clumsy
Couch Potato
Easily Impressed
Grumpy
Hates the Outdoors
Insane
Light Sleeper
Loner
Neurotic
Slob

I've added a baby only wheel spinner to my blog, and a note on why I didn't make one for the child transition stage.
Test Subject
Original Poster
#11 Old 28th Sep 2018 at 11:25 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Mmdrgntobldrgn
Augh!!!

Question, on a birthday if they transition with an unallowed trait, stupid game mechanics & anything less than A grades, can we roll them a new trait from the allowed list? And do a quick tce trait change or use midlif crisis if they've got enough ltr point's (she doesn't). Sadly I think I know the answer, time to make more babies, darned heir got savy sculptor.


Sorry, the rules clearly say that such sim can't be heir. But if you feel like it would ruin your story, just change the trait and you're fine. it is not a competition and the most important thing is to have fun


Quote: Originally posted by Mmdrgntobldrgn
Pulled from another site

"Sims with the Unlucky or Loser traits are immune to accidental deaths. You will see them die and become ghosts, but the Grim Reaper will bring them back to life rather than sending them to the grave. Unlucky and Loser Sims can only die of old age. "
https://www.thonky.com/the-sims-3/death

Well um dang, I'll be testing it just to be sure but dang there went those possible plans.

I'll be in game today, with the sole purpose of updating the roller page with a baby, child, and teen roller for the loser legacy allowed traits.



Only Unlucky works that way. Loser doesn't. I tested it personally some time ago.
Lab Assistant
#12 Old 1st Oct 2018 at 7:55 PM
This is definitely something I want to try, especially as my last legacy died on me.

I guess the Sims aren't the only unlucky ones xD
Lab Assistant
#13 Old 17th Oct 2018 at 11:12 AM
I'm having fun with this. My founder is a hoarder, which unfortunately isn't very noticeable in the first gen, because she can't afford a lot of stuff, but still.

Absolutely Cuckoo - I'm Surrounded By Idiots
Pollard - a Boolprop EPIC challenge
Test Subject
#14 Old 17th Oct 2018 at 11:01 PM
For those reading the loser legacy I've got a new post, it's also the last one for the founder, for you http://mamadragonssims.weebly.com/l...gacy/meinwen-16

That's the last post until I get everything back to running smoothly, the save files are very carefully tucked away out of harms way as I handle the hard drive cleanup. I think you'll be able to figure out who the heir apparent is.
Test Subject
#15 Old 17th Oct 2018 at 11:02 PM
Quote: Originally posted by toxi
I'm having fun with this. My founder is a hoarder, which unfortunately isn't very noticeable in the first gen, because she can't afford a lot of stuff, but still.

Collecting rocks might help with that, as well as give her 'more stuff' to hoard.
Test Subject
Original Poster
#16 Old 18th Oct 2018 at 9:42 PM
Quote: Originally posted by toxi
I'm having fun with this. My founder is a hoarder, which unfortunately isn't very noticeable in the first gen, because she can't afford a lot of stuff, but still.


The downside is that you can't get quick money by selling collectibles, which can be tricky for a founder sometimes. My founder is a hoarder, too
Lab Assistant
#17 Old 31st Oct 2018 at 3:25 PM
This seems great and I love the idea of it I started a little blog on this following my Fickle Sim!
https://ts3llchallenge.blogspot.com/

Sometimes I feel like one of the unborn Ottomas twins.
Test Subject
#18 Old 1st Nov 2018 at 4:21 AM
Quote: Originally posted by rb47798
This seems great and I love the idea of it I started a little blog on this following my Fickle Sim!
https://ts3llchallenge.blogspot.com/


Oh my what a fun start for your fickle guy.
Lab Assistant
#19 Old 2nd Nov 2018 at 11:51 AM Last edited by rb47798 : 3rd Nov 2018 at 3:00 PM.
Quote: Originally posted by Mmdrgntobldrgn
Oh my what a fun start for your fickle guy.

Yeah he's been getting down and dirty with two of the Parrott sisters
Next post is up too https://ts3llchallenge.blogspot.com...her-sister.html

3rd November: 3rd post up https://ts3llchallenge.blogspot.com...e-child-13.html

Sometimes I feel like one of the unborn Ottomas twins.
Test Subject
Original Poster
#20 Old 2nd Nov 2018 at 5:32 PM
Oh I'm having so much fun reading all the stories! <3 It really is the best part about creating a challenge. Thank you for sharing :-)
Test Subject
#21 Old 17th Nov 2018 at 4:34 AM
Cool!
Forum Resident
#22 Old 25th Nov 2018 at 4:09 PM
I did finally update. You'll be impressed. I'm just doing too much and spreading myself too thin.
https://2sim3.wordpress.com/other/loser/yac
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